vCloud Director – the vmworld koolaid hangover

Ok so you have been to VMworld 2010, got out of bed at 730AM for the keynote on vCD with before hand having a ridiculous burrito and stale awful coffee or such like for breakfast at the VMworld catering, before rushing to get into the first sessions feeling like you are merely a single sardine in a sea of many through the crowds and then after all that got home after those general product sessions to install and see vCD for yourself to find;

  • It requires Redhat 64 Bit,
  • Needs an Oracle DB
  • Has no OVF based appliance

Disappointed comes to mind with a prereq list like that, especially after i’ve had a twitter stream, RSS feed and work email box inundated with hype over this product. I would expect with the push of virtual appliances and the alliances with Novell this could be packaged into a VA so at least simpletons like me could at least get half way to deploying.

It’s a shame, it appears vCD that I know full well has been in development for sometime under the Redwood guise has merely been released to woo customer and raise share prize at VMworld.

Well I will tell you this…if a product that is going to “take me into the next decade of IT” as the marketing waffle suggest it has got a lot of work to do in a short space of time to convince me of this…..personally releasing a product that is as fundamental to VMware’s future as where the initial ESX releases back in the original rise of VMware I think they are treading on thin ice.

End of rant

6 comments on “vCloud Director – the vmworld koolaid hangover

  1. Duncan says:

    I think you misunderstood something here. vCD is definitely not aimed at the lower end of the market where Oracle or Redhat would be an issue. vCD is aimed at Enterprise level customers and Service Providers. Most of these have no issue whatsoever with the “constraints”. That it might be an issue for your home lab is something I can imagine, but my team has been implementing the product for months and without any issue at all.

    Now, the documentation describes perfectly how to install vCD so even if you are no Linux wizard you should be able to install it. And if you are no Oracle wizard install 10g Express if you just want to test it out, and if it is just for testing go ahead and use CentOS… that will do fine.

    Now the whole virtual appliance argument is a good one, but as you said VMware has been working on vCD for a very long time now and this whole Novell alliance is something of the last months. Now I would personally expect that an appliance will be available at some point, but when… no clue. Same goes for support for other databases and/or linux distros.

  2. Couldn’t agree more. While I accept Oracle is an enterprise DB, it would have made sense to offer the option of SQL which arguably scales just as good.

    To install and secure Oracle properly, a specialist would have to be brought on board. Stick with Windows & SQL, which we all know and love.


  3. Greg says:

    I agree completely on the Oracle requirement. It is just not feasible for us and us such without that investment we can’t use it! I have a sneaking suspicion we won’t be the only ones :)

  4. I am not making any excuses for not supporting other databases, but as the class-leading enterprise database most organisations will have in-house Oracle skills to call upon. This database should be managed as a bombproof 24×7 production database, by a dedicated team and with enterprise class availability. With RAC and Data Guard there isn’t much competition for Oracle in this area, so the marriage makes good sense to me.

    If you just want to install vDC to play around and test, then also bear in mind that all Oracle software is freely available in full versions for test and evaluation / lab work. No license to acquire, no demo expiration, just full versions of the entire software stack. And if you’re stuck with the install or config drop me a line and I will help. You can install Oracle 11g enterprise edition in around 15 mins, so I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

  5. admin says:

    So maybe VMware have felt my wrath a little on this in regards to Oracle being the only supported DB so don’t take it personally, I did think about installing Oracle express and may well do this for evaluation purposes.

    In the real world of my Mon-Fri job, Oracle is a DB that is readily available to use, however a few barriers exist such as cost, lack of standardisation within VMware estate amongst many.

    The real thing that has got me is the lack of Virtual Appliance and I think you would be the first to admit to this one. It just came at a large surprise and definately a large dissapointment. Now I am by no means a product manager and wouldn’t want to be however it just seems exceptionally odd that the organisation that has been praising to the masses about running VA’s hasn’t done so for v1.0 of the next gen based product.

    So a recommendation to VMware, practice what you preach and maybe you will have far less moaners like me ;)

  6. VMWare Zen Master says:

    The Oracle requirement threw us for a doozy… We are a Fortune 500 company and over the last couple years migrated much of our infrastructure from Oracle over to MS SQL Server.

    We are also one of the largest VMWare Lab Manager installs in the Northeast. Our natural next migration is to vCloud Director, but we no longer have any in-house Oracle expertise.

    Oracle, as an organization, is a opponent of VMWare and makes it very difficult for end-users to run Oracle Database server on VMWare. This seems like a very strange requirement to come out of VMWare.

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